Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC (2024)

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Wednesday, September 7th 2022

Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC (1)

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As reported by BusinessKorea, Apple, one of the largest companies in the world, will source its 3D NAND from Chinese memory maker Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp (YMTC). Known for supplying 3D NAND to Chinese SSD makers, YTMC's reported contract with Apple will fuel the upcoming iPhone 14 SKU manufacturing. Whether or not this partnership will expand to other products, it is essential to have as many storage sources as possible, as Apple sells millions of devices per year. YTMC is on track to deliver 3D NAND flash with the latest Xstacking 3.0 six-plane architecture that provides triple-level cell storage with I/O speeds of 2400 MT/s.

YTMC has joined the list of 3D NAND flash vendors that Apple works with, including SK Hynix, Samsung, Kioxia, and possibly others. This partnership also highlights that the Chinese memory output is sufficient and significant enough to break into more markets worldwide, not remaining exclusive to domestic use.

Sources:BusinessKorea, via Tom's Hardware

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#1
john_

Waiting for voices about how that 3D NAND memory can transfer stored secrets to the Chinese government.

#2
Bomby569
john_Waiting for voices about how that 3D NAND memory can transfer stored secrets to the Chinese government.

the usual end of the world drama. We should only have 3d NANS that sends secrets to the NSA

#3
usiname
john_Waiting for voices about how that 3D NAND memory can transfer stored secrets to the Chinese government.

I recommend you get one of these, protect from 5G, Covid 19(Covid 20 soon), Chinese/Russian/Aliens governments and satellites
Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC (3)

#5
john_
usinameI recommend you get one of these, protect from 5G, Covid 19(Covid 20 soon), Chinese/Russian/Aliens governments and satellites
Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC (5)

I am afraid I am not going to look as good in it, as you in the picture.

#6
usiname
john_I am afraid I am not going to look as good in it, as you in the picture.

This guy is the first result from google. I'm a little surprised from your smartnes, but anyway, you are the one who need this hat because your fridge will send the secret information for the available products to the chinese goverment ;)

#7
john_
usinameThis guy is the first result from google. I'm a little surprised from your smartnes, but anyway, you are the one who need this hat because your fridge will send the secret information for the available products to the chinese goverment ;)

Advertising that you are incapable of understanding humor and sarcasm, while also making clear that you are easily triggered for no reason, is not in your advantage. I think.

But, please, don't stop I might be wrong.
(PS This is my last reply to you, because it's already beyond ridiculous and there is no reason to derail the thread)

#8
stimpy88

Nice to see Apple helping the Chinese economy as much as they can...

#9
usiname
john_Advertising that you are incapable of understanding humor and sarcasm, while also making clear that you are easily triggered for no reason, is not in your advantage. I think.

But, please, don't stop I might be wrong.
(PS This is my last reply to you, because it's already beyond ridiculous and there is no reason to derail the thread)

Edit: Sorry, I reread your first post now and I saw that I was completely wrong.
I'm just sick of this kind of tracking from one country is unacceptable while the tracking from another is perfectly acceptable and couldn't take it this time.

#10
Mack4285
stimpy88Nice to see Apple helping the Chinese economy as much as they can...

Apple should reduce dependency on China, for obvious reasons. They do the opposite. Wow.

#11
Shatun_Bear
Mack4285Apple should reduce dependency on China, for obvious reasons. They do the opposite. Wow.

Why? The American cartel of tech mega corporations need more competition. They're funneling $Billions in profits into shareholder pockets. They'd pillage every last cent from your corpse if they could, they're not your friends. I welcome the rise of Chinese rivals in every market.

#12
Assimilator

Nice, now when you buy an iPhone you can be guaranteed that you are helping to fund a regime that routinely commits human rights offenses against its citizens.

#13
Bomby569
AssimilatorNice, now when you buy an iPhone you can be guaranteed that you are helping to fund a regime that routinely commits human rights offenses against its citizens.

a nation should only commit human right offenses against other countries citizens, like with guantanuamo or the Chagossian people. But not even that with the discriminatory black people killing by the police inside the US borders. Anyway... this should not be political topic.

#14
Denver
john_Waiting for voices about how that 3D NAND memory can transfer stored secrets to the Chinese government.

Certainly.. And also stealing other things.

#15
bug
Shatun_BearWhy? The American cartel of tech mega corporations need more competition. They're funneling $Billions in profits into shareholder pockets. They'd pillage every last cent from your corpse if they could, they're not your friends. I welcome the rise of Chinese rivals in every market.

Same line of thinking the gave USSR the atomic bomb, kudos!

Also:

This partnership also highlights that the Chinese memory output is sufficient and significant enough to break into more markets worldwide, not remaining exclusive to domestic use.

Not necessarily. Said NAND could still be aimed at Chinese-sold devices.

#16
SOAREVERSOR
AssimilatorNice, now when you buy an iPhone you can be guaranteed that you are helping to fund a regime that routinely commits human rights offenses against its citizens.

"Now"? Wasn't it not that long ago people were hurling themselves off the roofs at foxconn?

#17
DeathtoGnomes
usinameI recommend you get one of these, protect from 5G, Covid 19(Covid 20 soon), Chinese/Russian/Aliens governments and satellites
Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC (6)
usinameThis guy is the first result from google. I'm a little surprised from your smartnes, but anyway, you are the one who need this hat because your fridge will send the secret information for the available products to the chinese goverment ;)

Seeing as others jumped on the bandwagon... the caption said selfie. :D

/ontopic

The way this is written screams as a political stirring of the pot. Than again, its Apple...:shadedshu:

#18
Assimilator
Bomby569a nation should only commit human right offenses against other countries citizens, like with guantanuamo or the Chagossian people. But not even that with the discriminatory black people killing by the police inside the US borders. Anyway... this should not be political topic.

This is a topic about China, not the USA. So take your whataboutism and shove it.

#19
john_
bugNot necessarily. Said NAND could still be aimed at Chinese-sold devices.

Very good point.

Chinese where very upset with the new rules about selling high performing GPUs to China and now the probably biggest US company making hi end devices, chooses a Chinese company to order NAND, which means, what, dozens, hundred of millions of dollars in orders? It could be just Apple's decision, a way to prevent the Chinese government from taking for example a rush decision to ban Apple devices from China as a retaliation for the latest rules about Nvidia and AMD GPUs sold to China. It could be just coincidence.

Obviously having a huge amount of NAND is a system doesn't make it faster, so I guess US doesn't mind if Chinese companies become the top NAND manufacturers in the world. That move from Apple could also be what politicians needed to somewhat easy the tensions and send the message that "There, we still do business with you. Just play nice".

#20
A Computer Guy
john_Waiting for voices about how that 3D NAND memory can transfer stored secrets to the Chinese government.

3D NAND - not by itself. You have to combine it with 5G. However that might not even matter. I thought I saw an article awhile back if you set your iPhone language to Chinese your data will be relocated to China servers because compliance reasons.

#21
Bomby569
AssimilatorThis is a topic about China, not the USA. So take your whataboutism and shove it.

Actually this topic is about Apple a US company. You must have got lost somewhere mate. :kookoo:

The problem is not the few dollars of the NAND but not buying Apple products to "fund a regime with human rights offenses" in the US

#22
bug
Bomby569Actually this topic is about Apple a US company. You must have got lost somewhere mate. :kookoo:

The problem is not the few dollars of the NAND but not buying Apple products to "fund a regime with human rights offenses" in the US

It's only a problem if you (think you) know what people should be buying. In the free world, we have a right to choose what we want to spend our $$$ on.

#23
Bomby569
bugIt's only a problem if you (think you) know what people should be buying. In the free world, we have a right to choose what we want to spend our $$$ on.

i agree with you 100%, i was just counter arguing a point. I have zero issues with this.

#24
AM4isGOD
AssimilatorNice, now when you buy an iPhone you can be guaranteed that you are helping to fund a regime that routinely commits human rights offenses against its citizens.

Considering how much stuff comes from China, every American already is. and English, and german, and french, etc etc. Personally I have no problem with Chinese stuff, or the country.

#25
R0H1T
bugIt's only a problem if you (think you) know what people should be buying. In the free world, we have a right to choose what we want to spend our $$$ on.

We don't live in a free world, if you think we do then you could continue living with that delusion. Whether it's the dictatorial govt from China or the corrupt megacorps from somewhere else, all of their hands are soaked in blood one way or another! It's just who you want to support, or not :shadedshu:

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Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC (2024)

FAQs

Apple to Source 3D NAND Memory from Chinese YMTC? ›

Apple has reportedly approved 3D NAND flash produced by Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp. and will now use it for its upcoming iPhone 14 smartphones. The move represents a strong win for YMTC and will ensure steady supply of flash memory for Apple's next-generation products.

Who are Apple's NAND suppliers? ›

YMTC was added by Apple to its list of NAND flash suppliers for the iPhone 14 in September, according to a report by South Korean media outlet BusinessKorea. Apple had previously been using NAND flashes made by South Korea-based Samsung Electronics, SK Hynix and Japan-based Kioxia.

Who makes NAND chips in China? ›

YMTC shocked the industry in 2022, when Canadian research firm TechInsights said the Chinese company had produced a “232-layer NAND flash”, an advancement that put it ahead of global giants such as Micron, Samsung and SK Hynix at the time.

Who manufactures iPhone NAND? ›

Apple currently sources NAND flash from Korean giants Samsung and SK hynix, as well as Japanese producer Kioxia (formerly known as Toshiba Memory Corporation). It also buys RAM from SK hynix and Samsung, making its supply chain heavily reliant on Korea.

How is NAND memory made? ›

NAND flash is created from a circuit grid of individual cells. At the intersection of each cell with another, there are two transistors (the floating gate and the control gate) separated by a thin layer of metal-oxide semiconductor material.

Who is the biggest supplier to Apple? ›

Foxconn is the world's largest technology contract manufacturer and its India facilities take orders for multiple electronics brands.

Does Apple make their own memory? ›

Apple for some time is designing its own SoCs (we could also say CPU). It is only designing while TSMC is manufacturing. From RAM perspective Apple just buys DDR5 from other companies and other company than Apple is packaging CPU and RAM into same package.

Who is the largest manufacturer of NAND flash memory? ›

Currently, the NAND Flash market is still dominated by the five major manufacturers, with Samsung and SK Hynix accounting for the lion's share.

Who makes the best NAND chips? ›

Top Companies in NAND Flash Memory Market
  • Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd.
  • KIOXIA Corporation.
  • Micron Technology Inc.
  • SK Hynix Inc.
  • Intel Corporation.

Who makes 3D NAND? ›

Some of the 3D NAND Memory companies listed below:

Infineon Technologies. Microchip Technology Inc. ON Semiconductor. SK Hynix.

Does Apple use Samsung NAND? ›

They use nothing special. MacBook's SSDs are nothing but Samsung's NAND packages, exactly the one found on Samsung SSDs, perhaps even a lower quality chip.

Who is the memory supplier for Apple iPhone? ›

Apple to source iPhone memory chips from Samsung after trade ban on Chinese firm. The Apple iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus. Apple is reportedly sourcing iPhone memory chips from Samsung. According to DigiTimes, the U.S export ban on Chinese chipmaker Yangtze Memory Technologies (YMTC) forced Apple to turn to Samsung.

What is Apple NAND? ›

NAND, so called because of its use of NOT AND (NAND) gates, is a type of non-volatile memory chip that is used in all iDevices. This chip is where all the storage of the device is located. In the case of iOS, the chips can range anywhere from 4 GiB to 2 TiB.

What is the difference between NAND and 3D NAND? ›

Capacity. 3D NAND flash offers greater storage capacity -- or data density -- compared to 2D NAND flash. Stacking multiple layers of memory cells to create a 3D storage matrix can bring significantly greater storage capacity to the same chip area or footprint.

What is the lifespan of a NAND memory? ›

NAND flash memory types include SLC, MLC, TLC and QLC. Most enterprise-grade solid-state drives are designed to last between three and five years, with cell density playing a significant role in endurance rates: Single-level cell (SLC): 100,000 P/E cycles. Multi-level cell (MLC): 10,000 P/E cycles.

Who are Apple's main suppliers? ›

Apple Inc. manufactures most of its products in China through partners like Foxconn. Apple's decision to outsource its manufacturing has received significant criticism, due to allegations of poor working conditions, long work hours, and other labor rights violations.

Who are the producers of NAND chips? ›

The major ones are:
  • Samsung Electronics. Samsung Electronics is a global leader in NAND Flash memory manufacturing. ...
  • Kioxia (Toshiba Memory) Formerly known as Toshiba Memory, Kioxia is the Japanese manufacturer that originally invented NAND Flash memory. ...
  • Western Digital (SanDisk) ...
  • SK Hynix. ...
  • Micron Technology. ...
  • Others.

Who supplies displays to Apple? ›

As the primary supplier of OLED panels to Apple, Samsung Display will be responsible for manufacturing displays for all four models: iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, iPhone 15 Pro, and iPhone 15 Pro Max. The report indicates that the iPhone 15 launch is proceeding as scheduled for September.

Who is Apple's biggest chip supplier? ›

While Apple designs some chips and processors internally, the manufacturing is, as a rule, outsourced to foundries like Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC).

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